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great insight into google's walled garden vs amazon's market place philosophies!

my 2 cents:

1/ part of nvidia's moat is around it's gpu business is CUDA. the processors of both are not compatible with it, and have their own respective programming model. not that CUDA is the only way to achieve things - but it is highly optimized and developers know it.

now think of some team of bright engineers that want to start their own model - they will have no problem accessing funds in today's climate, but those investors will want quick results. this means that learning a new programming model is probably not your top priority.

as such i think the home made gpus - will be used solely by internal projects that can impact the chip so it would meet their specific needs.

meaning: it would mean creating a new gemini/ nova version might be more cost-effective - but would not help generate significant income.

2/ in general, i think all model creators are trying to sell the idea that there'll be a "one model wins it all" scenario, or at least "one model is the best for use-case". probably part of the narrative of race to AGI. investors are more likely to believe that such breakthrough would happen once, and not 17 times in parallel.

if this scenario turns out to be true, and gemini turns out the best for a few highly profitable use-cases, the google as AI story is indeed something to be priced in its valuation in a significant way.

i'm not sure models are not being commoditized, meaning: that more than a single model can produce pretty good results for a use-case. i am seeing enthusiasts telling agents to run things against a few models in parallel. if that becomes common in all future agents, it would be hard to make gemini a significant revenue generator, because competition will drive profitability down.

aws "model marketplace" is not immune to that commoditization either. e.g. OpenRouter

3/ i know i might be stoned for saying that, and that it might not age well - but we might be close to "pick cloud AI". in today's hardware - when one wants to run any model that is larger than a few billion parameter model, one has to run this on the cloud. most devices don't have enough GPU processing or ram to hold the model and be responsive enough.

one can imagine a world where retail hardware can hold a big model (see mac's M5 recent release). in such a world - much of the traffic that goes to the cloud, and be handled locally. no need for constant internet connection (e.g. developing world), no need to share your private info (e.g. healthcare agent), can make near-realtime decisions (e.g. security agent).

in such a world while demand for hardware for building better models will rise, demand from consumers will diminish.

in such a world - many of existing AI plays will disappear, along with lots of investors' money.

i'm not sure how this will impact either amazon or google - but if that turns out to be true, i think google might be better positioned.

i feel like i am emitting negativity now :)

so just to leave us with positive note: both great businesses that will probably outlive any AI shock scenario. they might lose some "AI premium" that seems to be sprinkled on all mag-7 now, but they will survive and come out stronger.

and if apocalypse is avoided, they both would probably score a lot of points other will have hard time scoring, due to all great reasons you listed.

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