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Helpful insights James, thank you. I do believe ASML's machines can pivot to printing on graphene-based chips as their lithography technology is simply projecting light on a wafer to create a design. Whether its on silicon or other materials I believe its just a matter of pivoting slightly. However, this is a good question for ASML management as it falls into more technical and operating considerations. The other thing I am thinking about is the magnitude of scale you mention for these graphene-based chips. How many chips is Paragraf producing per year? I have learned that most new technologies in this industry fail due to lack of sufficient scale and/or not ensuring the necessary raw materials or suppliers.

Silicon wafers will continue to have an important share of chips in the future. Whether its for the most dense / smaller parts of the chip or the more coarse parts. Silicon is readily available, cheap, and easy to manipulate so it will be hard to substitute as the material used to layer on the wafer.

I agree that EUV is reaching its Moore's law limit and that only TSMC as a client is keeping up with the amount of innovation that ASML is generating. However, this shines light on DUV which is still a great business for ASML and is used for the top layers of chip-making (recall that chips are a mesh of several layers of transistors, much like a skyscraper, and that the most dense/small layers are the bottom floors while the simpler layers are the top ones). While the lower levels will require EUV for the higher precision, the top layers can be made with DUV, so this could be a case for slower growth for EUV and higher growth for DUV. In addition, if ASML ends up selling less EUV machines this may also lead to clients upgrading their old lithography machines instead of buying new ones. ASML has a robust upgrade and maintenance business that actually has higher margins than new equipment sales. So what I am getting to is that there may well be slower growth in ASML's EUV business for various reasons but that may not necessarily hurt the company's intrinsic value as it may be compensated by ASML's other lines of business including DUV and upgrade/maintenance.

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